https://www.poetryfoundation.org/podcasts/162537/my-heart-and-its-borders
This one will lift your spirits and break your hearts…
ANOTHER STUNNING CONVERSATION WITH HELENA de GROOT
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Seasonal Reading 
Thanks for bringing this here- I just had a listen and it was totally lovely ❤
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“not everyone has lived through genocide but everyone’s been sick”
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