Neighbor Dave sent this my way– worth a listen if you are brave enough 😉
https://joeblowe.podbean.com/e/interview-wclimatologist-daniel-swain/
Interview with Climatologist Daniel Swain
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While waiting for summer, we explore the arts in full–
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Open Arts Spring 2023 
borkali, thank you for this. I listened to this conversation while making xmas cookies. It is fascinating and deeply unsettling. Making me think a lot about time and natural systems, about how alarmingly skewed and rapid change is occurring now, relative to naturally occurring change. Also ruminating on the astounding beauty and efficiency of this living, breathing earth. All of it. All of it interconnected…
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Borkali, this is intellectually fascinating and, practically speaking, terrifying. And, yes, as JNaz says, the rapidity…
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